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Sea Wolf
11-23-2001, 12:34 AM
Where can i find the iso's to SuSE and Debian? I've searched both websites and couldnt find them. Also if they dont have iso's avalible, how do i download and install those linuxes??? :confused:

jon787
11-23-2001, 12:55 AM
linuxiso.org

Radar
11-23-2001, 01:30 PM
As was previously mentioned, http://www.linuxiso.org

Dl the ISO's, burn them onto CD, Boot from the first CD for each Distro, have fun.

sarah31
11-23-2001, 04:47 PM
There are no isos available for Suse other that for the Sparc platform, not even at the above mentioned site. Debian has isos there though.

For Suse you will have to ftp install it. There are instructions on their site pages. Only attempt this if you have high-speed internet because it takes along time!

quandary
11-23-2001, 05:57 PM
I wouldn't recommend downloading a Debian ISO. Just download the boot disks and base system (which are probably about 1/10th the size of the ISO, if not less), install using those, and use apt to get whatever else you want. It will save you a lot of downloading time and will most likely leave you with a trimmer system.

sarah31
11-23-2001, 08:19 PM
Originally posted by quandary:
<STRONG>I wouldn't recommend downloading a Debian ISO. Just download the boot disks and base system (which are probably about 1/10th the size of the ISO, if not less), install using those, and use apt to get whatever else you want. It will save you a lot of downloading time and will most likely leave you with a trimmer system.</STRONG>

Very good point. Take a look the Linux from Scratch site for an idea of what should be in your system. I am sure the base sytem will have most of what you need, though. Am I right?

kevin79
11-24-2001, 01:18 AM
Is Debian newbie friendly? I am just dabbling in Linux right now on my free time, but I want to try as many different distro's as I can.

Thanks.

error27
11-24-2001, 05:21 AM
no :(

Debian isn't newbie friendly for two reasons.

1) It doesn't do very much hard ware auto detection.

2) It doesn't give really good hints about what most desktop users will want to install.

The next release of Debian should add basic hardware detection and I hear that they tried to remedy the other problem also.

I sometimes think that Debian will never be very newbie friendly because choosing what packages to install by default is sometimes like "playing favorites" and Debian won't do that for political reasons. The other thing that Debian doesn't do is try set standards for colors or themes.

Debian is really nice though in some ways. It has better package management than anyone else. This means that installing new software in Debian is easier than with any other distribution or operating system. Debian also has more programs packaged up than any other Linux distribution. If you use the testing version of Debian then your programs are going to be more up-to-date than with any other Linux distribution.

So basically, if you know what your hardware is and if you know what programs you want to use with Linux then Debian is great but most newbies don't know those things.