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masitti

10-29-2003, 01:45 AM

Ok, I am settin up a little home server here that will let me access my files from school. Apache is up and it runs... however connecting from any other computer it doesn't work. What could be doing this, why, and how can I fix it? TIA. :)

knute

10-29-2003, 02:43 AM

Do you have a firewall set up?

freakmn

10-29-2003, 04:08 AM

Many ISP's block port 80, which is default for a web page. It's very common (http://justlinux.com/forum/search.php?s=&action=showresults&searchid=789414&sortby=lastpost&sortorder=descending). You could try telling apache to use some other port (it's an arbitrary number between 1 and 65535 or so), but then you would have to use the port number in your browser, too. (i.e. http://(your ip or hostname):(port number)). It may also be in violation of your ISP's terms of service. Check with them if you want a definate answer.

masitti

10-29-2003, 06:52 PM

As far as I know, there is no firewall setup.

Thanks for the link - I'll see if any of those may help me... :(

Gertrude

10-29-2003, 10:40 PM

Are you behind a router?

If so you need to forward the port that the webserver runs on to the IP address of that computer..

masitti

10-29-2003, 10:43 PM

Originally posted by Gertrude
Are you behind a router?

If so you need to forward the port that the webserver runs on to the IP address of that computer..

It goes from the DSL box to a 4-port hub, sp I don't think it is a 'router' persay... there are 2 computers hooked up on the hub. Both with same IP's as far as I know.

Gertrude

10-30-2003, 04:32 PM

They should not have the same IP. If they do that could be the issue.

masitti

10-30-2003, 09:13 PM

Originally posted by Gertrude
They should not have the same IP. If they do that could be the issue.

Yea, thought about that.. I am gonna get a router and use a router instead of just a hub, hopefully it'll do the trick. :)

"Q"

11-01-2003, 12:15 PM

If your DSL modem deosn't have routing on it (make sure) then also check too see if it used DHPC and is assiging ip addresses to your computers or not. I have my routers ability to do that turned off and than set the local machine ip manualy so that it is static.

What modem do you have?

masitti

11-01-2003, 01:04 PM

Originally posted by "Q"
If your DSL modem deosn't have routing on it (make sure) then also check too see if it used DHPC and is assiging ip addresses to your computers or not. I have my routers ability to do that turned off and than set the local machine ip manualy so that it is static.

What modem do you have?

I dunno if it does or not to be honest.

It's a proprietary USWest modem. It's for a vDSL service.

"Q"

11-01-2003, 02:01 PM

Hmmm,

So I assume that it is an external modem. If so is really should say. I got my modem from QWest and it says actiontech on it which is the brand.

If all else fails you should probably call up the support line for the modem and find out what you have.

How was the modem configured. ie - does it have a web interface that you connect to via 192.168.0.1

masitti

11-01-2003, 02:03 PM

The modem requires pretty much no configuration - we just tell the host computers to automatically fetch an IP and all the other information.

Here's an update:

I recieved an SMC 4-port router... how should I go about setting this up so that I could direct someone to my computer (and not to the other) for the server? Their setup is pretty confusing.

"Q"

11-01-2003, 02:11 PM

You don't need the router. It should work without it. By adding it you will just make it harder to trouble shoot. It will be nice once you get it working so that all the TCP/IP packest arien't broadcast to all computers.

I spent a total of 1-2 hours on the phone with my tech support people to learn my modem. Most of them do know enough to be of some help.

This reminds me of my work. I am a mechanic and people who don't know what they are doing get something in their head and tell me what is wrong with their car. It just deosn't work that way.

I have told you all that I know on how to get you going. So if you want to answer my questoins then I can continue to try to help you. If not then I hope someone else can.

masitti

11-01-2003, 02:15 PM

Originally posted by "Q"
You don't need the router. It should work without it. By adding it you will just make it harder to trouble shoot. It will be nice once you get it working so that all the TCP/IP packest arien't broadcast to all computers.

I spent a total of 1-2 hours on the phone with my tech support people to learn my modem. Most of them do know enough to be of some help.

This reminds me of my work. I am a mechanic and people who don't know what they are doing get something in their head and tell me what is wrong with their car. It just deosn't work that way.

I have told you all that I know on how to get you going. So if you want to answer my questoins then I can continue to try to help you. If not then I hope someone else can.

Yea, that's a secondary goal too (the packets being sent to the right computer).

What kinda cars do you work on?

Ok, so I should call Qwest and see how the modem works to figure this out? This is really weird too, I hit up http://localhost in Galeon, and it does a google search. :( I then try and go to the IP address and it funks out saying it can't find it. :(

"Q"

11-01-2003, 02:24 PM

On my home network I only have 2 computers. My server and my desktop.

The localhost will only work from the server.

To access the server from my desktop I hit http://192.168.0.(ip number i gave it)

One more question. How did you set up the dns for the server. There are a lot of steps to go through in getting this working.

Also do you have a static IP address. If not then more steps to go through.

If quest is you service provider then call them you posted USWest earlier.

There are other points to clarify but I gotta go pm me and maybe we can hook up on MSN and talk more freely and detailed.

masitti

11-01-2003, 02:28 PM

Originally posted by "Q"
On my home network I only have 2 computers. My server and my desktop.

The localhost will only work from the server.

To access the server from my desktop I hit http://192.168.0.(ip number i gave it)

One more question. How did you set up the dns for the server. There are a lot of steps to go through in getting this working.

Also do you have a static IP address. If not then more steps to go through.

If quest is you service provider then call them you posted USWest earlier.

There are other points to clarify but I gotta go pm me and maybe we can hook up on MSN and talk more freely and detailed.

Yes, I tried the 192.168.0.x - came up with a could not connect error. The localhost was coming from the server as well.

I didn't setup any DNS as from what I can remember... :o

I dunno if you remember, but a few years ago Qwest bought USWest - well, this hardware is old enough that is from USWest... so the hardware is originally from USWest (back in the day), but the current provider is Qwest. Sorry if I confused you there.

Yea, I'll send you an IM... thanks man. :)