Orinoco Classic Gold Card unrecognized [Archive]

ctlmd

10-09-2003, 08:17 PM

I just got the Orinoco Classic Gold card, and it is not recognized by Redhat Linux 9.0. It doesn't seem to be a hardware problem, as it works fine on the same computer booted to Windows. But it could be a compatibility problem with linux, I suppose. Though I would think the correct drivers and/or scripts could correct the problem. Can anyone point me to a post of step-by-step what to do?

Thanks

Icarus

10-09-2003, 08:47 PM

Not the same card, but might be usefull...
http://linux.oldcrank.com/tips/wpc11/

Then there is always http://linux-wlan.org/ but you should not need to download and 'install' anything, RH9 already has the orinoco driver ready as a module.

rbrimhall

10-09-2003, 09:09 PM

I had to use the wlan-ng rpm packages and new pcmcia-cs drivers to get mine working correctly...

ctlmd

10-09-2003, 09:09 PM

when I typed cardctl ident, that's what I got, 'no pcmcia driver in /proc/devices' and when I tried to download the driver, I couldn't get into /proc/devices. I'm pretty sure this is the orinoco driver that everyone is talking about, as it is the 'orinico classic gold' and on the back has Agere systems.

rbrimhall

10-09-2003, 09:17 PM

http://sourceforge.net/projects/pcmcia-cs
http://prism2.unixguru.raleigh.nc.us/

ctlmd

10-09-2003, 10:18 PM

Thanks for the advice, I've downloaded the sourceforge info, but it looks more complicated than I believe should be necessary. I just tried cardctl ident with no card in the slot and got the same response 'no pcmcia driver...'. That combined with the fact that I'm not getting any kind of beep or bell when I put the card in and it not being activated when I try with the Internet Configuration Tool leads me to believe it's just not being recognized at all. There are 4 Lucent Orinico drivers, and I would think that at least one of them should work (I know, I could be wrong).
Now from skimming the sourceforge download, it could very well solve all my problems, including recognizing the card, but there must be an easier way. If not, I'll bite the bullet and do it.

Icarus

10-09-2003, 10:43 PM

Try this, put the card in. Does it make 2 beeps and the lights come on? If not PCMCIA is not on, turn it on

/etc/init.d/pcmcia start

You should hear the beeps. Then try "cardctl ident"

also try booting with the card inserted and anarconda should see it on boot and help set it up

ctlmd

10-09-2003, 10:53 PM

I get the following error to [root@localhost ctlmd]# /etc/init.d/pcmcia start
Starting PCMCIA services: modulesinsmod: /lib/modules/2.4.20-20.9/pcmcia/pcmcia_
core.o: No such file or directory
insmod: /lib/modules/2.4.20-20.9/pcmcia/yenta_socket.o: No such file or director
y
insmod: /lib/modules/2.4.20-20.9/pcmcia/ds.o: No such file or directory
cardmgr.
And no beeps or lights.

:(

ctlmd

10-09-2003, 11:34 PM

Actually, the only thing in the /lib/modules/2.4.20-20.9/pcmcia/ directory is prism2_cs.o.

Icarus

10-09-2003, 11:51 PM

Make sure you have the PCMCIA kernel modules loaded
rpm -qa | grep pcmcia

if not, load them.

ctlmd

10-10-2003, 12:21 AM

Kernel modules gave the following:
[ctlmd@localhost ctlmd]$ rpm -qa | grep pcmcia
kernel-pcmcia-cs-3.1.31-13
Also, I found the missing files, they were in fact in the kernel and I copied them to the /lib/modules/...pcmcia/. This nearly made the card load up, but first it said pcmcia was already loaded, so I turned it off, and then back on. I then got a high pitched followed by a low pitched sound and the light flashed transiently. Then I tried to do the redhat GUI loading, and again, it said the card wasn't present. So, I think I'm getting closer, but still not there. Also, the card is not the one referred to in the post above, so I may have misconfigured it in the .conf file.

ctlmd

10-10-2003, 12:42 AM

Also, on entering cardctl ident, it gave as product info: "Lucent Technologies", "WaveLAN/IEEE", "Version 01.01", ""
manfid: 0x0156, 0x0002
function: 6 (network)

I would have expected to see Orinoco Gold or something, even though Lucent was the manufacturer or at least owner for a while apparently.

rbrimhall

10-10-2003, 01:00 AM

I have the exact same card and I had to install the new drivers (pcmcia-cs) and wlan-ng packages as I said above... My card was recognized as Wavelan as well... the above packages solved the problem.

ctlmd

10-10-2003, 07:49 AM

I found the wvlan_cs driver in my Redhat 9.0 Internet Configuration Wizard, but when I enter insmod wvlan there's 'no module by that name' though insmod wvlan_cs works fine. What does that mean? and can I just get wvlan module somewhere? do I just do modprobe? Sorry, but I'm still a newbie and trying to understand all this.

Icarus

10-10-2003, 08:46 AM

does "modprobe orinoco" or "modprobe orinoco_cs" or "modprobe hermes" work?
Do you have all the kernel source installed?

ctlmd

10-10-2003, 08:50 AM

the other modprobes work, including modprobe orinoco, modprobe orinoco_cs, modprobe hermes, modprobe wvlan_cs

ctlmd

10-10-2003, 09:59 AM

I just downloaded the wlan-ng packages and it's not working. I'm really over my head now and don't even know what to tell you is not working. I get a high-pitched double beep like the card's being recognized, but it's still not recognized in the GUI (which I don't know if I even need to use) - although it has an option now for wlan0 rather than eht1.
The light is still not on and there is no communication with the wireless modem.

rbrimhall

10-10-2003, 11:18 AM

Install the pcmcia-cs drivers now... then, the gui should work... make sure you have your kernel sources installed.

ctlmd

10-10-2003, 11:28 AM

Sorry to be so thick, but where do I obtain the new pcmcia-cs drivers?
Again thanks

rbrimhall

10-10-2003, 11:33 AM

The link is listed above but here it is again:

http://sourceforge.net/projects/pcmcia-cs

ctlmd

10-10-2003, 11:35 AM

Thanks, I just found it and will try it.

rbrimhall

10-10-2003, 11:39 AM

good luck, it's not too difficult...

ctlmd

10-10-2003, 11:47 AM

I thought i had kernel sources installed but evidently not. I went to ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.4, and there are multiple files listed. Do I only need one tar.gz file for my sources?

Newbie

ctlmd

10-10-2003, 12:05 PM

OK, I found my kernel sources, installed the new PCMCIA-CS drivers, activated the card, lights flashed but didn't stay on, tried the GUI -> SIOCSIFFLAGS: Cannot assign requested address
failed.
What address failed and why? Could it have something to do with activation of the card from two places? Kernel and elsewhere?

rbrimhall

10-10-2003, 12:13 PM

As long as it recognized the card you're getting there... I had to enter my info manually to get the card working.

Once the eth1 appears as a device in the gui click edit... enter your ssid, ip address, subnet mask (255.255.255.0 usually), and default gateway (ip address of your router or access point)... Once I got that info in I rebooted (since the gui says you may have to do this) and the card activated at boot and worked fine.

ctlmd

10-10-2003, 12:54 PM

I had deleted the hardware profile by mistake in the GUI, so I rebooted, hoping it would come back, and it did. But the card was no longer recognized by the GUI. The error seemed less sever, meaning it cycled through and gave me a different message: SIOCSIFFLAGS: No such device
Failed to bring up wlan0.
I was thinking that I had not modified the hermes.conf file, so I tried to do that, but I'm not sure what it should say now that I'm using different drivers, etc. Do you have any advice on that? I also tried changing to manual assignment of IP address etc., and that only gave slightly different error messages of not finding the card.
Thanks

rbrimhall

10-10-2003, 01:03 PM

first off, you installed the red hat kernel sources, right? You can get them from red hat network for the current kernel you're running. You may have to then reinstall the pcmcia-cs package so that the configure file uses your current linux sources....

Otherwise, you may have to manually add the card in the gui. Use the internet config wizard and select wireless. If your card is not listed choose other card. From the drop down you should be able to choose orinoco pcmcia for the card... if not the drivers did not install correctly.

rbrimhall

10-10-2003, 01:05 PM

http://rpm.pbone.net/index.php3/stat/4/idpl/684215/com/pcmcia-cs-3.2.4-1.i386.rpm.html

this may make your life somewhat easier... a little older than the sources I gave you but not much... couple of months.

ctlmd

10-11-2003, 12:21 PM

I think I've figured out part of the problem, that I took the link in a previous reply, http://linux.oldcrank.com/tips/wpc11/, and installed the prism2 driver from within the prism2.unixguru.raleigh.nc.us/ site, and now I can't get rid of the prism2 driver from startup.
Can u tell me how to uninstall this without messing up other things and how to get the wvlan driver installed in its place?

ctlmd

10-11-2003, 06:23 PM

I went back and tried to install linux-wlan.org files and found that when I tried make config, I got the following error:
The pcmcia-cs source tree does not appear to be configured.
The wlan driver for pcmcia cannot be built without /bin/echo -e the pcmcia-cs source tree present and configured.

That seems like it could be the reason my pcmcia_cs drivers are not being recognized, but I don't know where to go from here.

ctlmd

10-11-2003, 09:59 PM

rpm.pbone gave multiple errors such as:
file /etc/pcmcia/config from install of pcmcia-cs-3.2.4-1 conflicts with file from package hwdata-0.75-1
file /etc/pcmcia/config.opts from install of pcmcia-cs-3.2.4-1 conflicts with file from package kernel-pcmcia-cs-3.1.31-13

ctlmd

10-12-2003, 10:10 AM

Installed the linux-wlan.org files and found that wlan-ng.conf doesn't contain my card. I'm surprised that it doesn't seem to contain several common cards. Is this, in fact, where my card should be, and would different versions contain it?

ctlmd

10-13-2003, 06:05 PM

i learned today from linux-wlan.org that their system doesn't support the wvlan_cs card, so I need something else to drive my card. Can anyone advise me?

ctlmd

10-14-2003, 08:44 AM

It finally works! I may just be talking to myself now, but in case anyone wants to know, I de-activated wlan and installed orinoco_cs. The site is http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux/Orinoco.html
Easy installation and it works. I didn't have the key on my wireless router yet, so I haven't tried that, but just deleted the key in the GUI setup of the card. Also, I had to set the IP manually.

rbrimhall

10-14-2003, 10:02 AM

Glad you got it working and sorry if my advice didn't help...

ctlmd

10-14-2003, 10:34 AM

No problem, just glad it's finally working. I just think there should be a better general resource listing which cards/electronics go with which drivers and general instructions on how to install them...maybe there is and I just don't know it. But it seems like numerous people are having the same issues over and over again.