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cotfessi
09-04-2003, 01:06 PM
I’ve been in and out of the Linux world for about 5 years. I’ve always tried to maintain at least one box at home running some flavor of Linux. I’ve tried Slackware, Redhat, Suse, Debian, and most recently Gentoo. Each has some advantages and disadvantages. I’ve become somewhat partial to Debian within the last year or so. I think that the apt-get tool works well for me. (yes, I know there are other similar tools in other ditros) I liked the portage system within Gentoo as well, but I found myself spending too much time compiling than actually using my system.

That being said, I have a few questions to the community in general. I’m sitting here at work and we’re running Redhat on several of our servers. We needed to recompile the kernel to get one of our IBM apps to work – no one wanted to do this because (a) they didn’t know how and (b) it would invalidate tech support. I think about all of the times I have compiled my kernel and all of the tweaks that I’ve applied to my boxes over the years and I’m wondering if Linux is overshooting the goal. I don’t want to inspire some sort of holy war or create a back and forth about the Linux desktop is just as good if not better – I think that it is. For your average geek who has a few hours some weekend, you can make a really slick Linux box that would beat a Window machine any day. I’m more looking at it from a standpoint of the corporate enterprise and not the home user. Linux doesn’t have to be everything to everybody, hell; I don’t care if my grandma can’t install it! If you’re a serious computer user and you want more control that windows gives you than by all means, install Linux. But what about the corporate side of things? A company doesn’t want to work with a distro that gives you the power to be super configured; a company wants a solid OS that is secure and stable. Redhat seems to be the clear favorite within this market because of the corporate structure that Redhat has wrapped itself in…and there in lies my question. How can Linux possibly survive as it enters the corporate world on a larger scale? Distros like Debian are almost too concerned with their methodology… it just seems to idealistic to make it in the corporate world. Now I’d like to think I understand the spirit of the GNU, GPL, etc. but I’m wondering about the future of Linux as it makes it’s way farther and farther into the corporate world. Is all of the work being done on distros that won’t ever make it to the enterprise in vain? Maybe it’s someone’s hobby, and maybe I’m asking the wrong question, but it seems pointless sometimes. I guess I’ve always taken the approach that if I’m going to spend extra time at home screwing around with Linux , I’d like to do so in a manner that it helps with my dealing with Linux at work. Does anyone have any thoughts on this?

moojuece
09-04-2003, 01:30 PM
i do some systems admin work for a company that started out as solely windows based.....set them up with a linux mail server....then linux forum/webserver...now in the process of doing testing on a desktop for them....the only snag i have is they have a piece of software that was developed for them by a microsoft provider and the developers will not work with anything other than windows no exceptions....since this software is part of the main service/product that has caused some issues....it is web based though so once i install the linux citrix webclient all should be smooth and have the company entirely linux......

dkeav
09-04-2003, 02:06 PM
i think we will see more movement with the standardization of linux for desktop in general, but distros what are designed around the corperate market are out there, they just have poor advertisement, or are overpriced, distros like UnitedLinux is designed for just that purpose but has a hefty price tag that limits its deployment, in order for linux to be a viable competator in the windblows/cubicle driven world, its going to have to beat it on all levels, the problem is the levels that it can actively beat windows on has been achieved long ago, the barriers to entry are not with the OS its self, but with the users who use it, you cannot expect someone who has had MS conventions drilled into their heads for around a decade to just up and switch with no problems, while via starting entry users on linux, they pick it up without a problem because there is no conventions to break, i think we are gonna see it, but its gonna take time i'd think to relate it to the evolutionary process or the phrase "rome wasnt built in a day" it will happen just be patient

mdwatts
09-04-2003, 03:57 PM
A interested article I read from the Linuxplanet newsletter today and printed it off for our System Architect.

http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/reports/4990/1/