bdg1983
10-08-2001, 04:33 AM
I`m not going to start a distro war, but what are the main differences in Debian and Slackware. By that I mean how does it look, behave and how user friendly it is. Wondering which one to install :D
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UltraMagnus
10-08-2001, 05:46 PM
Hate to say this but that question has been asked many times. You should do a search in the board and check out what people have said. You'll get better results that way. Just my two cents.
scanez
10-08-2001, 06:59 PM
Agree with UltraMagnus. Do some searches, there have been tons of topics relating to this.
And when in doubt, install both and see which one suits you better.
Have fun
SC
And when in doubt, install both and see which one suits you better.
Have fun
SC
jon787
10-08-2001, 11:06 PM
Is searching thes forums still a joke or does the search button actually work now?
bdg1983
10-09-2001, 03:06 AM
I know its been asked many times. But since the search function doesnt work I guess I will have to ask it again.
kuber
10-09-2001, 03:32 AM
Basically Slackware is better.
:p :p
:cool: Slackware :cool:
:p :p
:cool: Slackware :cool:
Joeri Sebrechts
10-09-2001, 03:46 AM
Originally posted by MoonX:
<STRONG>I`m not going to start a distro war, but what are the main differences in Debian and Slackware. By that I mean how does it look, behave and how user friendly it is. Wondering which one to install :D</STRONG>
As far as I understand, slackware gets you closer to the bare metal, so you'll learn more, but debian is easier to manage, so you'll spend less time fiddling with your system.
Anyway, it doesn't matter which one you pick, they'll both do what you want them to.
<STRONG>I`m not going to start a distro war, but what are the main differences in Debian and Slackware. By that I mean how does it look, behave and how user friendly it is. Wondering which one to install :D</STRONG>
As far as I understand, slackware gets you closer to the bare metal, so you'll learn more, but debian is easier to manage, so you'll spend less time fiddling with your system.
Anyway, it doesn't matter which one you pick, they'll both do what you want them to.
slacker_x
10-09-2001, 05:17 AM
!warning uninformed opinion!
:-)
I haven't used Slackware, but I have been using Debian for quite a while.
From what I understand, Slackware uses BSD style init....which is different from most linux distros.
It's not so much that Slackware lets you get closer to the bare metal, it makes you get closer to the bare metal because things won't work if you don't. Debian has great default configuration files, so apt-get install _____ whatever will work under simple cases. If you want to customize things, you will have to get your hands dirty using either distro since neither is big on graphical administration tools.
I still think the best advice would be to try them both. That way when someone asks the same question 6 months from now, you won't have to talk out of your *** like I am
:D
:-)
I haven't used Slackware, but I have been using Debian for quite a while.
From what I understand, Slackware uses BSD style init....which is different from most linux distros.
It's not so much that Slackware lets you get closer to the bare metal, it makes you get closer to the bare metal because things won't work if you don't. Debian has great default configuration files, so apt-get install _____ whatever will work under simple cases. If you want to customize things, you will have to get your hands dirty using either distro since neither is big on graphical administration tools.
I still think the best advice would be to try them both. That way when someone asks the same question 6 months from now, you won't have to talk out of your *** like I am
:D
scanez
10-09-2001, 07:59 AM
Originally posted by MoonX:
<STRONG>I know its been asked many times. But since the search function doesnt work I guess I will have to ask it again.</STRONG>
Um, why doesn't search work again? I'ved used it a few times in the last few days and just right now too. No problem for me.
SC
<STRONG>I know its been asked many times. But since the search function doesnt work I guess I will have to ask it again.</STRONG>
Um, why doesn't search work again? I'ved used it a few times in the last few days and just right now too. No problem for me.
SC
mangeli
10-09-2001, 10:12 AM
The system Init files are setup differently. Debian uses the redhat style and Slack uses the BSD style.
Plus there's apt-get in debian.
It really comes down to which you like better.
one of the things slack has going for it is that Craig doesn't use it.
Plus there's apt-get in debian.
It really comes down to which you like better.
one of the things slack has going for it is that Craig doesn't use it.
Joeri Sebrechts
10-09-2001, 10:31 AM
Originally posted by mangeli:
<STRONG>one of the things slack has going for it is that Craig doesn't use it.</STRONG>
Yeah, but on the other hand, one of the things debian has going for it is that I use it
:D
<STRONG>one of the things slack has going for it is that Craig doesn't use it.</STRONG>
Yeah, but on the other hand, one of the things debian has going for it is that I use it
:D
chikn
10-09-2001, 10:48 AM
Originally posted by mangeli:
<STRONG>
one of the things slack has going for it is that Craig doesn't use it.</STRONG>
ROFL
Best point made in quite some time
<STRONG>
one of the things slack has going for it is that Craig doesn't use it.</STRONG>
ROFL
Best point made in quite some time
indelusion
10-09-2001, 03:32 PM
these 2 ditros are for people who live at their parents house and have alot of free time. For those who have limited time use RedHat.
slacker_x
10-09-2001, 04:42 PM
Originally posted by indelusion:
<STRONG>these 2 ditros are for people who live at their parents house and have alot of free time. For those who have limited time use RedHat.</STRONG>
LOL....what a troll!
Having said that, I don't mind living with my parents.
:cool: debian :cool:
<STRONG>these 2 ditros are for people who live at their parents house and have alot of free time. For those who have limited time use RedHat.</STRONG>
LOL....what a troll!
Having said that, I don't mind living with my parents.
:cool: debian :cool:
scanez
10-09-2001, 07:33 PM
Originally posted by indelusion:
<STRONG>these 2 ditros are for people who live at their parents house and have alot of free time. For those who have limited time use RedHat.</STRONG>
Um, I don't live at my parents house. In fact I have very little free time so I really don't see what your point was. Oh could it be it takes longer to install and configure these two distros? Well that can't be true because it has been no trouble for me or for many others at all so far.
SC
<STRONG>these 2 ditros are for people who live at their parents house and have alot of free time. For those who have limited time use RedHat.</STRONG>
Um, I don't live at my parents house. In fact I have very little free time so I really don't see what your point was. Oh could it be it takes longer to install and configure these two distros? Well that can't be true because it has been no trouble for me or for many others at all so far.
SC
X_console
10-09-2001, 08:10 PM
Since I haven't used Debian all that much, I'm not qualified to tell you about it. I'm sure one of the Debian experts like Strike or Craig will be able to fill you in on that. So instead, I'll tell you about Slack.
Pros:
Slack tends to be a very secure and stable distribution because the developers do no include bleeding edge software in the distribution. There have been very few Slackware related security issues that are released yearly. The install is simple and you have full control of what you want installed. If you're installing on multiple systems, Slack comes with a feature called Tagfiles (see the NHF section for more details) which allow you to specify what packages are going to be installed. This is also helpful if you tend to reinstall often. Just pop in the floppy disk and it'll automatically install the software that you listed out long ago on that floppy. Slackware does use the BSD-init style, but has a small support for SysV init scripts. Slackware uses it's own package manager, pkgtool. This is an ncurses graphical based tool. There are also command line versions such as installpkg, removepkg, upgradepkg, explodepkg, and makepkg. If you want to install RPM files, you can use the rpm2tgz tool to convert the file into Slackware package format, or you can install rpm (which is included in the distribution).
Cons:
Because the developers tend to wait until a particular application is stable and secure, you may find that Slackware is a little behind in terms of the new software included. As I said, no bleeding edge software included. If you want bleeding edge, you'll need to download and install it yourself. Some actual reading is required to actually get Slackware working the way you want. Most configurations are done by editing files manually or using simple ncurses configuration tools. The Slackware package manager needs quite a bit of work in my opinion. It doesn't check for dependencies, so it will happily install whatever program you want regardless of whether or not you've installed the libraries it requires. Slackware is also a little harder to maintain because unlike Debian, it does not have a stable tool that allows you to automatically upgrade every installed package on your system. Such a tool is actually in the making (autoslack I believe) and is in beta right now. Until this is complete, the best method of upgrading to a new version of Slackware is to backup your existing files, wipe your hard drive, reinstall, and restore your backup.
Pros:
Slack tends to be a very secure and stable distribution because the developers do no include bleeding edge software in the distribution. There have been very few Slackware related security issues that are released yearly. The install is simple and you have full control of what you want installed. If you're installing on multiple systems, Slack comes with a feature called Tagfiles (see the NHF section for more details) which allow you to specify what packages are going to be installed. This is also helpful if you tend to reinstall often. Just pop in the floppy disk and it'll automatically install the software that you listed out long ago on that floppy. Slackware does use the BSD-init style, but has a small support for SysV init scripts. Slackware uses it's own package manager, pkgtool. This is an ncurses graphical based tool. There are also command line versions such as installpkg, removepkg, upgradepkg, explodepkg, and makepkg. If you want to install RPM files, you can use the rpm2tgz tool to convert the file into Slackware package format, or you can install rpm (which is included in the distribution).
Cons:
Because the developers tend to wait until a particular application is stable and secure, you may find that Slackware is a little behind in terms of the new software included. As I said, no bleeding edge software included. If you want bleeding edge, you'll need to download and install it yourself. Some actual reading is required to actually get Slackware working the way you want. Most configurations are done by editing files manually or using simple ncurses configuration tools. The Slackware package manager needs quite a bit of work in my opinion. It doesn't check for dependencies, so it will happily install whatever program you want regardless of whether or not you've installed the libraries it requires. Slackware is also a little harder to maintain because unlike Debian, it does not have a stable tool that allows you to automatically upgrade every installed package on your system. Such a tool is actually in the making (autoslack I believe) and is in beta right now. Until this is complete, the best method of upgrading to a new version of Slackware is to backup your existing files, wipe your hard drive, reinstall, and restore your backup.
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