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NotQuiteSane
07-30-2003, 01:47 AM
I sent this to my freind last week, but have yet to hear back from him.
~ i think i've found the answer to tge second problem @
file:/usr/share/doc/howto/en/html_single/Qmail-VMailMgr-Courier-imap-HOWTO.html,
but any of you guys want to give and hints with the rest of the troubles?

-------- Original Message --------

To: Tom Mandera <tsm1@7>

I'm having a few troubles, and am getting nowhere when I RTFM, that just
makes me more confused. i'm hoping you can shed some light on them.

first off, I sent this to sllug, but got no reply, i'm not sure if i
want to use a hardware based router/firewall, or software based. what
is the best physical setup?


|
|I've just read the linux & firewalls thread, and i've got a question
|concerning using a box as a router/firewall.
|
|for refrence, I "have" (discreprencies noted) the following machines:
|
|Teena: 133 (166?) pac bell (at my mom's, i need to pay for shipping to
|get it here)
|Mike: 66mhz compaq proliant 2000
|Miverna: 800 duron homebuilt
|Dora: thinkpad 390x (450 p3)
|SmartGirl: hp jornada 820 (not running, working on fixing and waiting
|for the linux port)
|
|What I'd like to do is run Teena just as a diskless firewall, most
|likely running smoothwall (but not set in stone) out to Mike who'll be a
|file/print/imap/whatever server, then out to the rest. so far okay.
|
|my trouble is how do i set up the rest of the (physical) network? i
|figured buying a multi-port cat 5 card for Miverna, that would give me
|room to grow, but how do i intergate the portable components (which will
|be wireless)? do i just do an ad-hoc network and bridge the wired and
|wireless sides, or should I go from Mike to a hardware router out to the
|rest, or perhaps make the entire network an ad-hoc wireless, with only
|the Teena - Mike connection being physically wired together? whats the
|best solution, at the most affordable cost?
|
|alaso, for the *bsd guys, if i stick bsd as my firewall on teena, how
|well does it talk to my linux boxes? what about MS? i might have a ms
|user moving in, and while she's eager to learn, i can't teach her linux
|overnight
|
|Joe
|
|Ok, next problem: IMAP. I've read howto's and faqs, and i'm still in
that dark as to how to get started setting it up. I belive problem 3
(mail delivery) could be solved by using imap locally, but whats the
correct procedure here? and as I understand i actually need 3 programs,
the imap server, some thing to bring in mail (currentlkyt postfix, but
have sendmail on install cds) and some thing to distribute mail (?)
whats the best configuration here?

3rd, mail delivery. currently, the YAST configured MTA delivers my mail
(both from miverna and tigger) to /var/mail/. I am currently manually
moving that file to my thunderbird profile. i'm not sure if this is
really a "problem", as kmail, for instance will let me specify a local
mailbox for the incoming mail source. but the look & feel of kmail
makes me sick, reminds me of another email client i escaped from when i
went to linux, i'm happy with thunderbird, and don't want to change.
plus while i can run their applications under XFCe, KDE and GNOME both
are way too bloated for me. i had to use kde as root earlier today (ok,
i didn't, but i was to lazy to use the text based alternatives), and in
the time it took to load i made and ate my breakfast. Olivier has
spoiled me with xfce. 30 seconds and i'm already working on my first app.

it seems to me i need to set up a local imap server (which i need
anyhow), and that should solve my mail delivery troubles.

in other news, i walked to the libarary the other day (trying to lose
weight), where i fetched HP's unix users guide. it was helpful in many
instances. but i stopped by a new "internet cafe" type place, and was
talking with one of the owners about what hardware he could scource for
me, and mentioned the troubles i'd had with the nearest LUG (when i left
the mailing list, it was suggested banning those who lived out side of
ashland, as it took them too long to drive there) . i mentioned i'd
like to see a LUG here, and he offered his business as a meeting place.
he isn't wireless yet, but if he had enough customers wanting it...

NQS

Alex Cavnar, aka alc6379
07-31-2003, 02:31 AM
Okay... I think I can field some of the issues.

If you want a diskless router, try the Linux Router Project. (http://www.linuxrouter.org/) It's a floppy-based router, so you wouldn't need a hard drive for it.

Personally, I wouldn't fool with a multi-port ethernet card. The same thing could be acheived with a regular 10/100 NIC and a switch or a hub. And I'd be willing to bet that it'll be lot cheaper than a multiport card. There are wireless to wired bridges you can purchase, where you just plug a CAT5 from the hub to the wireless bridge, and this will join your wired and wireless networks. That should be an easy, no-config needed step there.

If you're using either a *BSD or a Linux for routing, you'll have no problems with Windows. All the client machine is looking for is a TCP/IP gateway out to other networks. You could be running Netware on the router for all the client cares... the OS doesn't matter.

Personally, my internet NAT/firewall is a Compaq Proliant 1500R, 120mhz, 16MB RAM running FreeBSD 4.6.2. It's been rock solid, only going down when there's been a power failure.

As for the other questions, I'll hand it off to someone more knowledgeable...