Deleting KDE?

[m0th3r]

I'm thinking of deleting kde on my suse and just use windowmaker. My reasoning is I'm tired of window-esque desktops and WM quite frankly blew me away with it's looks. However, WM can be pretty confusing if I want to see my /home/user dir since I can't find a way to place a 'shortcut' on the desktop. Also I can't seem to install any new dockapps (I follow the instructions and when I type "appname &".. the command isn't found) So to the questions..

1. Can I just use yast2 to delete kde, without breaking anything?
2. Is there any Window maker tutorial where I can learn more?
3. Anyone know whats up when I try to install new dockapps, perhaps I'm missing something?

[tuxer]

yast is a qt/kde program
so you can't delete packages like QT,KDEBASE,KDELIBS i think.
when you do delete them you can't start any kde app anymore; like kmail,konqueror,yast,...

btw: you can delete kde and qt with yast.

bye

[serz]

1. Can I just use yast2 to delete kde, without breaking anything?

Is yast2 the main tool that Mandrake uses to manage packages? Then no, you won't break anything.

2. Is there any Window maker tutorial where I can learn more?

Have you tried making a search at google.com for "WindowMaker tutorials" or something similar?

3. Anyone know whats up when I try to install new dockapps, perhaps I'm missing something?
You should post the error you getting.

[m0th3r]

Originally posted by tuxer

when you do delete them you can't start any kde app anymore; like kmail,konqueror,yast,...


Ah in that case, I think I might just delete the kapps I don't use. I'll also have a look for some tutorials and will post back my dockapp errors later..

Ta.

[mdwatts]

I would at least leave QT, kdelibs and perhaps kdebase.

[The Mas]

Originally posted by m0th3r
I'm thinking of deleting kde on my suse and just use windowmaker. My reasoning is I'm tired of window-esque desktops and WM quite frankly blew me away with it's looks. However, WM can be pretty confusing if I want to see my /home/user dir since I can't find a way to place a 'shortcut' on the desktop. Also I can't seem to install any new dockapps (I follow the instructions and when I type "appname &".. the command isn't found) So to the questions..

1. Can I just use yast2 to delete kde, without breaking anything?
2. Is there any Window maker tutorial where I can learn more?
3. Anyone know whats up when I try to install new dockapps, perhaps I'm missing something?

Are you seriously short on space? If so, you ought to consider backing up and saving everything you have and then reinstalling your software, taking care NOT to select KDE. Then you can be sure that you'll at least have a working system. But if you don't want KDE, I question your choice of SuSE as a distribution. SuSE has good software, but it is definitely based on KDE, at least in the desktop version. If you really don't want KDE software, why don't you try a distribution like Debian or Slackware, and install only what you really want and need?

However, unless you're financially poor, I have to question either of these choices. When you can get a fairly large IDE disk for under $70, and smaller disks for even less than that, it seems pointless to micromanage disk space by weeding out software. But if that's what you really want to do, I'd recommend looking for a smaller, tighter Linux software distribution. SuSE's strengths are it's great variety of software, its availability, and its overall software integration, particularly when you're running KDE. Those characteristics become liabilities if you're hard up for space.

I'll try to address some other points later or defer to others.

[The Mas]

Originally posted by serz
Is yast2 the main tool that Mandrake uses to manage packages?

Point of clarification: Yast and Yast2 are distribution specific configuration tools that are, as best as I can determine, unique to SuSE's Linux distribution. I'm not sure that either Yast or Yast2 are licensed using the GPL, so I'm not sure you'd see then anywhere else.

Drakx is the core configuration tool in the Mandrake distribution and the various Mandrake tools generally have *drak* somewhere in the name. These tools ARE licensed using the GPL and there ARE a few distributions out there that are based on Mandrake software.

[The Mas]

Originally posted by m0th3r
I'm thinking of deleting kde on my suse and just use windowmaker. My reasoning is I'm tired of window-esque desktops and WM quite frankly blew me away with it's looks. However, WM can be pretty confusing if I want to see my /home/user dir since I can't find a way to place a 'shortcut' on the desktop. Also I can't seem to install any new dockapps (I follow the instructions and when I type "appname &".. the command isn't found) So to the questions..

1. Can I just use yast2 to delete kde, without breaking anything?
2. Is there any Window maker tutorial where I can learn more?
3. Anyone know whats up when I try to install new dockapps, perhaps I'm missing something?

Try http://www.bensinclair.com/dockapp/ for some docking applications that can be used with Window Maker.

[serz]

Originally posted by mdwatts
I would at least leave QT, kdelibs and perhaps kdebase.
Good point mdwatts. Consider that, if you remove those you like you won't be able to run KDE apps anymore.

[m0th3r]

Thanks for the advice. I'll be honest with you I'm toying with Linux because I'm bored. I don't intend to run a server or write programs. It's my view that anyone with an interest in computers and thier application should experience all platforms and all OS's. If my ZX wasn't dead, I'd use that too.

The thing about me is I don't like dead weight, if I don't think I'll use something it normally comes off my box. But in this case, I think I'll just delete the KDE games etc. I've noticed that quite a few people here use debian, so it's one more to try!


Oh yeah, one more thing. wmmatrix. What is it's purpose? Just to sit there scrolling matrix code? I think it's looking at me...

[plattypus1]

You don't need kdebase to start QT apps. You DO need QT and kdelibs.

[serz]

Originally posted by m0th3r
[B Oh yeah, one more thing. wmmatrix. What is it's purpose? Just to sit there scrolling matrix code? I think it's looking at me... [/B]
it seems so. I'd like to see a screenshot of how that looks :) btw