Winmodem trouble :(

[jonathan89]

i know this is a very common question but i need to know soon and i cant find it anywhere. can mandrake linux 9.1 connect over a winmodem??? it has to! i cannot buy a new modem! everyone says that there are programs and projects that will do it but i cant find one ANYWHERE!!! i cannot buy a new modem b/c this is a company computer and i decided to make the suse----mandrake switch. it is an absolute necessity that i get my winmodem to work. complexity is not a problem whatsoever. anything will work.

[dkeav]

why cant you buy a new modem, an external modem that connects via your serial port are the most commonly used by linux people, and i dont see how that is going to affect your company computer since, your not even opening the case to intall anything, secondly you "Might" be able to get the winmodem working, but the chances arnt so hot, you will need to find out who makes the chips on your winmodem (requireing you to open the box), then you will have to try and locate a driver for it, then if you happen to find a driver, you will have to try and get the driver installed and working

frankly heres the truth, if you want to waste a week or more, and go through a bottle or two of advil, then headover to linmodems.org, if you want it to work, then go to walmart and buy an external serial modem from usr, plug it in, open kppp point it to your serial port and put in your isp's phone number, and your login information, click connect and your in business

[jonathan89]

i cannot connect any externals to my comp. nothing. already checked. do u have any other good links other than linmodems.org. i hate that site.

[dkeav]

thats it bub, your gonna have to use that site unless you know what model, make, manufacture of the chip is, PC-tel, conexant, rockwell etc etc

the you will prolly have to get the driver from mbsi, ill post more links when you post more info

[jonathan89]

where can i find out what make/model and **** the chip is?

[kevinalm]

You must find out what specific modem you have. It isn't absolutely necessary to open it up. It isn't clear from your post what os is currently on your system. If it is some type of linux, try:

/sbin/lspci

or

cat /proc/pci

You may see some mention of the modem, at least if it is a pci modem.

If it is some version of windoze, try poking around in device management, or whatever your win version calls it. Just don't change anything, remember, "cancel" is your friend. ;)

Some winmodems work quite well in linux. I'm using one right now. But it depends very specifically to the modem chipset, as mentioned before.

[jonathan89]

hi im back and i have the model stuff!
i have a........
SMART Modules (or however u spell it)
Model No. 90109-2

thats all i know except fot that its made in canada

help!

[jonathan89]

o yeah and i have windows xp home on it now. my company is ragging my *** for a UNIX. i hate suse and red hat, and i want mandrake. i need to get that modem working tonite! soi can fix it before my boss gets to work tomorrow. plz help! and fast! i could get fired. (he said switching to mandrake was a risk that can singe my *** hair)

[jonathan89]

o yeah and thats smart modular winmodem 90109-2 not smart modules

[dkeav]

B]Card[/B]
Smart Modular Technologies, Inc.
Model 90079-2 "Chameleon"
FCC Registration 2D7USA-33303-M5-E

Chip
Conextant
Riptide (TM) RACC010
D7400-12
B88267.3
9940 KOREA
ARM

lspci -vv
00:0b.0 Multimedia audio controller: Rockwell International: Unknown device 4310
Subsystem: Risq Modular Systems, Inc.: Unknown device 4310
Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B-
Status: Cap+ 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- SERR- Latency: 32
Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 10
Region 0: I/O ports at b800 [size=64]
Capabilities: [40] Power Management version 1
Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1+ D2- AuxCurrent=0mA PME(D0-,D1-,D2-,D3hot-,D3cold-)
Status: D0 PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME-

00:0b.1 Communication controller: Rockwell International Riptide HSF 56k PCI Modem
Subsystem: Risq Modular Systems, Inc.: Unknown device 4311
Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B-
Status: Cap+ 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- SERR- Latency: 32
Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 10
Region 0: Memory at df000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=64K]
Capabilities: [40] Power Management version 1
Flags: PMEClk- DSI+ D1- D2+ AuxCurrent=0mA PME(D0-,D1-,D2-,D3hot+,D3cold-)
Status: D0 PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME-

00:0b.2 Input device controller: Rockwell International: Unknown device 4312
Subsystem: Risq Modular Systems, Inc.: Unknown device 4312
Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B-
Status: Cap+ 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- SERR- Latency: 0
Region 0: Memory at de800000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
Capabilities: [40] Power Management version 1
Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1- D2+ AuxCurrent=0mA PME(D0-,D1-,D2-,D3hot-,D3cold-)
Status: D0 PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME

[dkeav]

see anything there, Smart makes the board, not the chip
in that case is is a Conexant rockwell chipset that probably has a driver, the chances that yours is the same are actually fair, so go to mbsi and get the rockwell driver

[dkeav]

http://www.linuxant.com/drivers/

[kevinalm]

Actually, better to go to

www.linuxant.com

That's the semi official conexant/rockwell linux driver site.

You'll need both the modem driver and the riptide sound driver. They also have windows/dos and linux utils to verify the actuall modem model/chipset.

>>dkeav, you beat me to it. :)

[irlandes]

I have no doubt there may be winmodems which take a week to connect - or even people who take a week to connect even a lucent chip. I also do not doubt there are winmodems which cannot be connected no matter how much time one spends, and individuals who are unable to connect any modem at all, no matter how much time they spend.

However, there are many folks who have connected winmodems with lucent chips in a few minutes. I am talking half an hour, including the download. Last year, some guy posted a similar question, I pointed him at the drivers, and within an hour, he sent me an e-mail using his winmodem. He was a total linux newbie, too.

The Conexant modems take a bit longer, because you need to first download the utility to verify which type it is.

You guys who claim it is one step short of impossible to connect ANY winmodem, or at least will take a week of dinking around as was stated here, and that no one should even try, you are flat wrong.

Linux is about choice, and if someone wishes to buy an external modem, that is a valid choice. I travel, and it would be incredibly stupid for me to carry both a Dell laptop and an external modem all over the USA and Mexico when the built-in Conexant winmodem works fine.

Are you the same guy who always preaches this nonsense, or is it different guys all the time? If you tried the drivers a couple years ago, and had no luck, I can believe it. Driver availability has increased dramatically in the last year For lucent chips, the rpm's install and load themselves with the click on the rpm file icon. Conexant is only slightly more difficult, once you know which type it is.

[dkeav]

no, actually i speak from what i know, i had a conexant HSF winmodem and i had it working in around 15 minutes, but the drivers where never good enough to reach my stability issues, "no dialtone errors", drop offs, unable to reconnect if set to auto, to me there had to be an easier way, and faster than trying to recode the driver myself, and there was i spent $30 at walmart took ten minutes, took five to unpack and plug in, and about thirty seconds to connect, never had a drop off, never had a do dial tone error, no problems what so ever

the poster was asking for a quick, answer that would provide the functionality that he needs so he wont lose his job, by tonight- so i am done posting, good luck with your modem

[jonathan89]

hey thanx for the help. i downloaded the rpm but it says it has a bad signature. canu give me some directions on installing the rpm? and can u plz tell me just what the hell an rpm is? thanx

[kevinalm]

rpm Redhat Package Manager There is the rpm program itself and package files, files that end in .rpm .

Many distributions adopted the system. The idea is to provide a simple way to install and uninstall software in linux.

Was the complaint about gpg signature or the md5 sum?

[jonathan89]

i dont know it just said bad signature on file ----
how do i transport the files from windows to linux (by floppys???) and do i need the riptide too? if sp how would i do that? i need step-by-step instructions :( i know its pathetic. help!

[kevinalm]

We can check the sigs after we transport the .rpm to your linux system.

A floppy will work if the file is small enough to fit on a floppy. If you are dual booting win/linux on a single computer there is a way for linux to access a file in your windows filesystem while linux is running.

Very important, did you use one of the utilities on www.linuxant.com to verify the exact chipset your modem uses?

[JusKickNit]

If you have a RipTide HCF modem (127A:4321 or 127A:4331), you need to install both the RIPTIDE and HCF drivers, otherwise the modem will not work. RipTide HSF modems (127A:4311 or 14F1:4311) require only the HSF driver, on top of which the RIPTIDE driver can be optionally installed to add audio, synth, midi, and gameport functionality.

[JusKickNit]

For windows users .rpm is very similar to a self-extracting zip file.

[JusKickNit]

http://www.conexant.com/support/md_driverdownload.jsp

Download the "list modem application for PC" and run in Windows to find out what you chipset is.

[jonathan89]

ok there has been a big mistake i do not have contexant chip set i have an AGERE chip set. This is what the chip says word for word, letter for letter, line for line:

agare
16 48C-TV5
SEGV 02365
copyright 00 Agere

i have no idea what that means. my kernel version is:
2.4.21-0.13mdk

i have mandrake linux 9.1
it is a Lucent Winmodem i think

also i have downloaded and tried a few RPM packages. i put them on floppys turn off my computer then reboot in linux. then i open my floppy section on my desktop and click on the rpm. i am then asked if i want to install such-and-such rpm. i click yes. half-way through the installation i am prompted with screen that says the rpm has no GPG signature and i am asked if i wish to continue i click yes. then i got to my mandrake control center and click on wizard . then it detects a winmodem and a ethernet. i uncheck the ethernet cuz im not gonna use it. then i press next. i am then prompted with "your modem isnt supported by the system. please see linmodems.org" then i press ok. then a box pops up and says: ""winmodem detected install rpm? i click okay and i go throught the same route i went throught the first time and i end up with a screen that says "your modem is not supported by the system see linmodems.org"

ok i have downloaded coventaxt and agere rpm things. i am almost positive i have downloaded the WRONG ones. i go to the links provided but since i have never really had to mess with configuration of linux (our sysadmin does that) i have no idea which ones to get.

i have provided the info on my chip. i have no more knowledge. i have given it all. i need to get this damn modem working before monday or i am gone. when i dream i dream of pink slips (not really thats just a joke) like i said i have tried a few and i never get anywhere. heres what i need:

EXACT directions to which rpm to download
which kind of rpm to download (RIPTIDE, HCF, etc.)
what to do once i have the files available in linux
how to configure it

PLZ HELP!!! my job hangs in the balalnce
thanx

[kevinalm]

This is some info I've found so far. The chipset number is 1648c.

I'll keep looking for a driver.

http://www.agere.com/support/client/modem_prodov.html

[jonathan89]

thank u thank thank u thank thank u.............

[kevinalm]

According to the listing for 1648c chipset of this page (you may have to jump + or - 50 listings)

http://www.modem-help.com/chips.php

It is a lucent/agere Mars 3.2 pci winmodem. I'm not very familiar with these, if anyone wants to jump in...

I'll keep looking. You might search this forum.

[kevinalm]

Go here, scroll down to mandrake, click Germany, click 8.26a9, read through the readme and pick the one that sounds closest to your system. I can't promise anything but we might get lucky.

http://www.heby.de/ltmodem


>>edit I think your best bet is the third one from the bottom, provided you're running a 586 type cpu. ;)

[endoalpha]

jonathan89: Haven't you been fired yet?

[jonathan89]

no i have until monday to fix the problem

[kevinalm]

If none of the rpm drivers will work, there is also the possibility of compiling the driver from source. For that you'll need the ltmodem-8.26a9.tar.gz file, near the bottom of the page at the heby.de/ltmodem website link above. Also, you'll need to install the developement components from the mandrake install cds.

[endoalpha]

It is Monday.....

[jonathan89]

...and I am fired :( Thanks a lot Linux, I hate you.

[endoalpha]

Everything is everybody elses fault. This is a very common theme in modern life.

[jonathan89]

yes but i was tricked by mandrake's catchy line of "it will work on almost ALL hardware and will give computer more options" im not saying it wasnt my fault i am fired. i did "tinker with the hard drive" as my boss said, but i was seduced my mandrake. also my wife left me cuz i lost my job. BUT now i can finally follow my dream and become a video game programmer instead of working for comporium. and for the wife? i didnt like that fat ***** no way. CHEERS TO LINUX!!!

[mdwatts]

Originally posted by jonathan89
yes but i was tricked by mandrake's catchy line of "it will work on almost ALL hardware and will give computer more options" im not saying it wasnt my fault i am fired. i did "tinker with the hard drive" as my boss said, but i was seduced my mandrake. also my wife left me cuz i lost my job. BUT now i can finally follow my dream and become a video game programmer instead of working for comporium. and for the wife? i didnt like that fat ***** no way. CHEERS TO LINUX!!!

You can blame MS for those darn Winmodems and NOT Linux.

[endoalpha]

Originally posted by jonathan89
yes but i was tricked by mandrake's catchy line of "it will work on almost ALL hardware and will give computer more options" im not saying it wasnt my fault i am fired. i did "tinker with the hard drive" as my boss said, but i was seduced my mandrake. also my wife left me cuz i lost my job. BUT now i can finally follow my dream and become a video game programmer instead of working for comporium. and for the wife? i didnt like that fat ***** no way. CHEERS TO LINUX!!!
If your dog died recently, you could write a catchy country tune and make a million dollars.