Ocasta
07-02-2003, 03:53 AM
Is it possible to partition a macintosh computer to have both the Macintosh & Linux on it? What problems would I run into? What distros are available for the Macintosh computers?
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mrBen
07-02-2003, 04:12 AM
Yes it is, although I have never done it personally - I believe that most of the Distros will set this up for you.
(I'm moving this to Linux - PPC - hopefully you'll get more informed answers there)
(I'm moving this to Linux - PPC - hopefully you'll get more informed answers there)
solo
07-02-2003, 08:20 PM
Here are some sites:
http://www.yellowdoglinux.com/
http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/powerpc/install
http://www.mandrakesoft.com/company/press/pr?n=/pr/products/2417
You'll want to read through these forums (this forum, in particular ;) ) to get more information. Another site that will provide lots of help:
http://www.google.com/linux
-or-
http://www.google.com/mac
Use the forum searches here, and search at the Google links... Read as much as you can... Good luck! :D
http://www.yellowdoglinux.com/
http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/powerpc/install
http://www.mandrakesoft.com/company/press/pr?n=/pr/products/2417
You'll want to read through these forums (this forum, in particular ;) ) to get more information. Another site that will provide lots of help:
http://www.google.com/linux
-or-
http://www.google.com/mac
Use the forum searches here, and search at the Google links... Read as much as you can... Good luck! :D
Modorf
07-02-2003, 08:53 PM
first off it can be done.
duel or triple boot an Apple Mac
ie Linux, MacOS9, & OS X
or any combo of the sort
first thing to do the drive partitioning in the MacOSes of your choice. Mac adds a couple of 1k partions at the front of the disk.
Make sure you create enough partitions with the Mac disk tool
you will need.
boot loader (macos) (10mb)
linux native (ext3)
linux swap
MacOS (HFS+)
In MacOS partion types don't matter, but space is needed. reboot and start the linux install. delete the partitons you reserved and recreate with appropiate types / sizes. do the install. set up yabin to boot how you want. Boot the Mac install cds and go from there.
Nathan.
duel or triple boot an Apple Mac
ie Linux, MacOS9, & OS X
or any combo of the sort
first thing to do the drive partitioning in the MacOSes of your choice. Mac adds a couple of 1k partions at the front of the disk.
Make sure you create enough partitions with the Mac disk tool
you will need.
boot loader (macos) (10mb)
linux native (ext3)
linux swap
MacOS (HFS+)
In MacOS partion types don't matter, but space is needed. reboot and start the linux install. delete the partitons you reserved and recreate with appropiate types / sizes. do the install. set up yabin to boot how you want. Boot the Mac install cds and go from there.
Nathan.
Ocasta
07-03-2003, 12:34 AM
I've only scratched the surface of Linux...is there any place to find a dictionary of Linux Slanguage?
solo
07-04-2003, 10:52 AM
Some terms that have been mentioned here already:
Partitioning... This divides the hard drive into several "virtual" hard drives. Linux needs to run on its own partition, plus another partition for swap space. Running Linux on a Mac; you also need a partition for the bootloader.
Bootloader... This is a machine language program that allows the user to choose an operating system to "boot", and then boots it. Every operating system needs a bootloader, but Mac and Windows machines hide their bootloader from the user; assuming that you will only use one operating system. Dual booting, or triple booting (and so on... ) means that you have 2 or more operating systems on your computer (MacOS X and MacOS 9 are separate operating systems, by the way... If you want to use the bootloader that comes with your Mac, you need to have these on separate partitions, and hold down the 'Option' key upon booting). It follows that, if you have enough hard drive space, you can have almost as many operating systems on your computer as you wish.
If you get a LinuxPPC install disc; just boot from that disc and follow the instructions from there. If you jump in head first, just write down any words, or terms that you don't understand during the install, and look them up on Google, or post a question here on the forum. It all depends on the best way of learning for you. Hope that helps :) .
Partitioning... This divides the hard drive into several "virtual" hard drives. Linux needs to run on its own partition, plus another partition for swap space. Running Linux on a Mac; you also need a partition for the bootloader.
Bootloader... This is a machine language program that allows the user to choose an operating system to "boot", and then boots it. Every operating system needs a bootloader, but Mac and Windows machines hide their bootloader from the user; assuming that you will only use one operating system. Dual booting, or triple booting (and so on... ) means that you have 2 or more operating systems on your computer (MacOS X and MacOS 9 are separate operating systems, by the way... If you want to use the bootloader that comes with your Mac, you need to have these on separate partitions, and hold down the 'Option' key upon booting). It follows that, if you have enough hard drive space, you can have almost as many operating systems on your computer as you wish.
If you get a LinuxPPC install disc; just boot from that disc and follow the instructions from there. If you jump in head first, just write down any words, or terms that you don't understand during the install, and look them up on Google, or post a question here on the forum. It all depends on the best way of learning for you. Hope that helps :) .
solo
07-04-2003, 10:59 AM
Oh, almost forgot... The Mac world is currently divided between "New World" Macs, and "Old World" Macs. The original blue and white (B&W) tower and before (including the biege tower) are considered Old World Macs, and therefore require a different bootloader (called BootX). Any machines newer than that are considered New World Macs, and require the YaBoot bootloader.
This is because New World Macs use a different 'Open Firmware' from Apple, that is upgradeable.
This is because New World Macs use a different 'Open Firmware' from Apple, that is upgradeable.
ven0m
07-04-2003, 11:31 AM
The original blue and white (B&W) tower and before (including the biege tower) are considered Old World Macs
I thought new world mac's are defined by the usb ports? As my G3 400 is considered a new world mac.
I thought new world mac's are defined by the usb ports? As my G3 400 is considered a new world mac.
solo
07-04-2003, 04:44 PM
Yep, I think I was wrong about that... Sorry :o . The biege G3 Power Mac's were the last of the Old World units (unless the first B&W's didn't have software upgradeable Open Firmware).
ven0m
07-05-2003, 04:58 AM
unless the first B&W's didn't have software upgradeable Open Firmware
Yes they have upgradeable firmware, as I had to update it to use OSX.
Yes they have upgradeable firmware, as I had to update it to use OSX.
Sepero
07-05-2003, 05:34 AM
It's good to see another Mac user trying the true freedom operating system. More power to ya.
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